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I'm not a member either but I'm just curious what was the final straw for you with Lisa? A dozen PJs, or Air Force Pararescue personnel, came up from Oregon; the navy flew a mission. PM me and I'll add y'all. Driving down together after a day of work, Carr Sr. would quiz Bud on what to do if he got stranded on that mountain road. The tether didnt lead back to Sam at all. I know theres some crazy shot going down now. Snow fell and Carr and Dares stopped searching, although they went back in 2019. She was most likely taking a selfie and fell. Soon, fueled in part by Dares social media and Sayers mothers social media postings, combined with a cultural obsession with true crime shows, the case became a social-media spectacle. PM me and Ill add yall. Ok so, I know most of what's going on in there is prob BS and conspiracy theories, but in light of the recent days' events I am dying to get in, and nownthst it's secret I fear I never will. All the things you want in a partner, he says. The trail was hard to follow, obscured by snow, above the tree line and exposed to the elements. A man with a dog showed up in the early days of the Idaho search in 2006 and offered his services. And women are targeted by predators (2 and 4 legged) way more than men are.. Samantha "Sam" Claire Sayers. It really is. Time will tell. That didnt go well, and he deleted his original post shortly after a friend suggested he should. At the same time a surge in outdoor recreation during the pandemic, and a corresponding increase in search and rescue calls, has added pressure to an already overtaxed system dependent on an aging volunteer base. She liked hiking. The longest search in state history turned up nothing. That will be nice for them.. Sayers' mom, Lisa Sayers, has posted daily videos to a Facebook page, #findsamsayers . News organizations picked up the story. So thats cool. But since moving to Seattle in 2012, and spending months of his life living on Vesper Peak, hes accustomed himself to the Pacific Northwest lifestyle. One witness claimed she saw Sam playing a TV show on her phone while hiking that day, an episode of The Bachelorette. Adams got hundreds of phone calls, including one from the general in charge of the Washington National Guard, who offered his own helicopters. Sams trace. The couple descended. Handler Cheryl Phillips and her dog, Raven. The Snohomish County Sheriffs Office launched 310 search and rescue missions last year, up 6 percent from 2017. Monchak would head up the amateur drone searches, but later broke from Kevins search to run his own. Those were boom years for the family. This unofficial search began as soon as SAR pulled out. Search-and-rescue teams, assisted by dog teams and drones, searchedthe area for three weeks before suspending operations. Carr took this intuition seriously. Brad Dad will sleep much better tonight, he says. MARBLEMOUNT, Wash. This is tough country. Show more Show more From Terra to Terabytes: Popular Cartography, Military Cartography. Let's treat everyone with respect. She had two hiking poles, a blue backpack, a beige sun hat and a dark gray wool beanie. Carr owns and operates 49th Parallel, a private search and rescue group located in Concrete and spent at least 70 days searching for Rachel. In late July, the Tacoma Mountain Rescue Unit Facebook page posted a photo (clearly photoshopped) of a bearded man with a Pinocchio-length nose, wearing a do-rag and smoking a cigarette. On the mountain, Kevins crew of a half-dozen hardcore searchers, most of whom had never met Sam, became a little band of brothers. Late on that August day, a few hours after Sam wandered down Vesper, Kevin Dares sat inside Roccos, an upscale pizza restaurant in Belltown with Victorian wallpaper and novelty banh mi slices. I would love to know the theory of the truth group please! So forgive Kevin for being a bit antisocial. The drama continued. Sam was raised in the Erie, Pennsylvania area where her parents Ron and Lisa still live. That was day 106. They dont touch anything. A hiker remembers seeing Sam veer down toward the peaks southwest side around 3pm. Because at the end of the day, hes the only person out there helping you.. The color of her lipstick debated, what does it mean? People whod donated to the GoFundMe, which Kevin says was used entirely to fund the private search, wanted to know if the men had been goofing around up there, having a drug holiday around the campfire. Hes going to have a cigarette, a bad habit that accelerated after Sayers disappeared, and take a nap while the four searchers below him make their way up. Samantha Jane Sayers (sammiieeiilikeeiitsayerss) See Photos. Sure, but then it wouldnt be Bud, Dares said, adding At the end of the day the families that are searching dont pay attention to it. You know. They gave the bags to Snohomish County Search and Rescue, asking them to place them around the mountain. Local drone pilots launched flights, passing along footage that Sams Belltown crew posted online for anyone to scour for clues. Finally, the last push to Vesper: a short traverse from Headlee to tiny Lake Elan, still partially frozen, and the triangular peak half-covered in snow. For some reason I was having a hard time finding this on my own, Yep as above the truth group is still rolling on.. just the main group shut down. Seattle Met. Is it possible or o.k. I've been getting a lot messages the past few days. We are just clearing ground, he said. Carr, by then a teenager, followed them to help his dad start a barbecue joint. Next to a log and up against a rock is an orange Therm-a-Rest folded as if used as a cushion to sit on. His voice is strained, sometimes wavering with panic. Here she was in the flesh at a Mardi Gras party in February 2016, thrown by the owners of Belltowns Biscuit Bitch. Back on the mountain the rest of the group makes it to Lakoduks final resting spot. Dares drops his pack. He lowered himself into an abandoned mine shaft and tromped through thick underbrush. Someone else commented on his swastika tattoo, calling him a Nazi and racist. She and Kevin, a single dad of three, moved in together. NBC News this past week pointed out that in the seven years its Dateline NBC "Missing in America" online series has been in existence, around 57% of the series'subjects have been found. When I dream shes always getting kidnapped. The unknown, he says time and time again, is the hard part.Sometimes he can joke about the idea that Sam had orchestrated her own disappearance, a kind of Gone Girl stunt that would melt the internet: Youve been chilling in the woods for five months? See Photos. And its unfair. https://www.facebook.com/groups/262800701091712/, Thank you! Rainier. He loaded Kevin down with a helmet, food, and a headlamp and watched him sprint back up the trail. The day was hot, the faint haze from far-off wildfires hanging in the air. The storm hit. His girlfriend, Samantha Sayers, also disappeared while hiking. A search organized. The trail gains elevation through switchbacks cut in a brushy hillside. But hey, this family has closure, he continues, his defenses returning. At 1 a.m., her family reported her missing. Psychics and shamans relayed visions. Toppled trees covered in moss. Theyd planned to do it together in 2018 but hed worried they werent in good enough shape, and they pushed it a year. Sayers, a 2008 graduate of Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy, left on the morning of Aug. 1, 2018, for a day hike at Vesper Peak in the North Cascade range, northeast of Seattle, where. He didnt think it was likely Sam had ended up there, but it was worth a look. Thats how you want to move, Carr recalls his dad telling him. And it was in Seattle. On August 23, Deputy Teske was sitting with Kevin when word came that the county was officially suspending its search. It starts at 3,600 feet in the thick and sometimes vicious vegetation typical of the rain-soaked North Cascades and winds into alpine meadows of wildflowers before reaching a rocky granite saddle and then, at 6,700 feet, the lookout itself. Dares was a wreck. He cant. Two trekking poles. The most paranoid among us believe that every person is shadowed by satellitesand thats probably not so far-fetched. Impressed by Carrs careful hand-drawn maps and search experience, Francis recommended he be put in charge of the familys search operations. At the request of Kriegers son, he stayed on the mountain for a month and half. Allison Williams He pauses and warns another search party member to watch his step. Many took issue with the supply bags full of energy bars, not a common SAR technique. They were rarely alone. She happily bought them and said in an interview that he had integrity. I have better things to do. Three homes. Efffff that now as far as am I concerned. Lean as a whip. Someone claimed she was on an episode of The Bachelorette. Her mother posted daily updates that were parsed for clues. Sergeant Adams thinks Sam is somewhere on that mountain, not far from where she was last seen. Dont touch anything, he says. Spreadsheets tracked every time a viewer thought they saw something. Thanks to their flexible schedules, they cruised Cascade trails midweekSam in her sports bra and Kevin in jeans, a Southerners rebuke of Northwest tech-gear chic. The first missing person Carr searched for was Patti Krieger in 2010 after the 65-year-old woman disappeared on Sauk Mountain, also in the North Cascades, just miles from Carrs home. This week I've caught up on the NW Hikers page dedicated to her, the forum was unfortunately closed back in September, but many of those people brought up valid points. Over a week ago, Samantha "Sam" Sayers, whose 28th birthday is on Aug.. They flag evidence, pink tape hanging limply from branches. Someone sent Kevin a kind of fan fiction story they found online, casting Sam, Buck Carp, and Kelvin Daires as characters in a rambling tale with a menacing undertone. After climbing more than 4,000 feet, up switchbacks and across boulder fields and finally across the patchy snow that marbles the stone pyramid of Vespers very top, Sam reached the summit. Its hot, humid and even he a Louisiana native is sweating. Sayers, a 2008 graduate of Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy, left on the morning of Aug. 1, 2018, for a day hike at Vesper Peak in the North Cascade range, northeast of Seattle, where she lived. Sam's mother, Lisa Yax Sayers, declined to be interviewed for this story. Of course shed go straight to Belltown.Seattle PD was dispatched to the coordinates. Nothing panned out. With his tattoos, felony conviction, self-promotion and a penchant for paramilitary theatrics, hes a lightning rod for criticism and a frequent topic of discussion in online hiking and climbing groups. Sam Sayers Consulting. Can I possibly get added to the group ? Literally nowhere else in the long history of missing persons cases do you see someone rallying up an "army" in this way. Originally from New Orleans, his leisurely drawl belying a sharp wit and quick tongue. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Everyone agreed that the public would take it all more seriously if people understood their solid commitment. Kevin began referring to himself as Sams fiance. He knows he should be angling left, to meet up with the group, but for some reason he wants to trend right a bit more. A Nazi? He believes the county search and rescue crews should talk more about what they do, to be held accountable for their successes and failures. Go to the creek. He took to Vesper and pioneered his own way off trail; from the brush he counted more than 100 people on the day the reward was posted. Charismatic in the most genuine way. Sam was a proud LGBTQ ally, thriving on activism. But the gold business soured in the late 80s and Carrs dad got into a dispute with his business partner. Other day trippers would recall seeing the solo hiker stripped down to her bra and hiking pants. That person wouldve walked out by now, I would think.. They wrote operating plans, considered moon phases and water sources. She was super smart, cool, funny. Folks questioned where all the money went. Washington is not his natural environment, growing up as he did in the swamps of Louisiana, trapping alligators and selling their hides. There the route passes across the south fork of the Stillaguamish River; hikers hop across boulders while the knee-deep creek rushes beneath. See Photos. Raven the search dog and her handler spent 39 days on the mountain, 17 of them in a row. So, when they stop, its relaxed. Over the next 10 days, 137 volunteers spent roughly 2,000 hours combing the mountain. His policy is to be as honest as he can. That was what had pinged. Denice Rochelle, a Seattle real estate broker and woman of color, messaged Carr in August asking if hed teach her how to travel safely in the backcountry after following his exploits online. No definitive signs ever surfaced; some footsteps on the southeast side could have been Sams, but they revealed nothing. No way, he said in a comment, because women need more protection than men do. Why? The two compromised. While talking, he continues searching, scanning to his left and right. She was 3,300 feet and 3 hard miles from the road, but she was on the right track. See how those goats move? She's into that Arbonne pyramid scheme as well. The first winter storm of the year was rushing in, and snow was falling. Theyve found no trace of Sayers. Trash. By life. Were going to have to make some changes.. Eventually, Kriegers son asked him to stop. According to the sheriff's office, a group of hikers reported seeing her on her way up Vesper Peak around midmorning. Yet, when after 10 days, the Skagit County Sheriffs Office suspended the search for Rachel Lakoduk, the only person who kept searching, and never stopped, was Carr. Now shes gone. When Kevin returned from the search, real life was waiting. 2 No Hate Speech or Bullying Make sure everyone feels safe. And who searches for those missing people? I submitted a request to join but it hasn't been approved yet. The Hidden Lake trek is 8 miles round trip and steep, gaining 3,300 feet in 4 miles. I cannot even imagine how her poor family feels. Despite her healthy pallor, strangers assumed shed just undergone chemotherapy, and the sympathetic clucks wore on her. Even though in the decade hes done this work, hes never found a single person. After Collegiate, Sayers attended the State University of New York at Fredonia, where she graduated in 2013 with a bachelors degree in technical theatre and theatre design and technology, according to herLinkedInaccount. Kevin Dares with Sam at a New Orleans wedding in 2017. Kevin agrees to wait. Seven years of Dateline's Missing in America: 156 still missing. Later, her husband Jamie, will receive a bag of her gear from the coroner and place the items on the floor of an empty room in the house they used to share. Nine months later, the mystery has consumed the lives of thousands. Super driven. Brad Tripp, her father, believes she missed the turn. Dares moves quickly up the hill using an ice axe to bite into moss, scrambling over rocks and ducking trees. Two boots. Rachel moved back into her dads home in Moses Lake. Kevin swiftly moved into the next stretch, where hikers emerge into Wirtz Basin, a box canyon with a smattering of squat trees. Kevin made several more solo trips through November 14. To Kevin, Carr was a generous stranger turned close friend, willing to take the Louisiana tenderfoot through the rugged terrain around Vesper Peak. Follow the creek to the river. Think what you will of Carr, Dares said, but the fact is hes offering hope and a service that no one else is. Its a sad, broken system in the United States. He also worries that such rogue searchers put themselves in danger. In addition to the swastika tattoo, Carr posted a video since deleted of himself wearing a hat with an Iron Cross. That was nine months ago. And for how long? The 28-year-old woman was last seen on a day hike at Vesper Peak in the North Cascades on August 1. How to travel in the mountains. I dont understand why I cant find Sam, he says, stifling a sob. He took off up the trail toward Vesper, leading Cheryl Phillips, a dog handler from South Carolina, and her search dog Raven. Not sure about the pad., Carr interjects, Orange, orange Therm-a-Rest.. Been trying for a week now I thought it was shut down (I'm social media challenged). He calls it the rabbit hole, one that can swallow you. Follow the river to civilization. It was Adamss first year as a search and rescue sergeant, taking over from a predecessor who oversaw SAR response for 22 years at the Snohomish County Sheriffs Office. Now that I've heard more theories on that front, his story sounds weirder and weirder. On August 16, Adams emailed a doctor at Snohomish County EMS to ask how long a young, healthy person like Sam could survive on the berries that blanket the western Cascades in late summer. Snohomish County Sheriffs Office searchers at Spada Lake, and a SAR unit briefing during the search. But is he a racist? The next evening, she was reported missing, her Jeep located that night by a sheriffs deputy. In the Belltown apartment, they hung maps and scrawled Sharpie notes directly on the wall. Psychics sent tips to the police Sam is near rocks, trees and water someone reported seeing her in a Walmart in Spokane acting strangely. No links but if you Google, there are a lot of message boards talking about how the search was run esp after the legit SAR pulled out. They told her theyd turned back at 6,200 feet. Not to mention, my husband from day one (I've been following since 8/5 or so) has said the BF has something to do with it. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. In response, he launched an Instagram campaign, posting photo after photo of swastikas, oriented in the traditional Buddhist way. I would just like to read at my pleasure and see what everyone else is thinking. A sexist and, just plain creepy, not to mention an opportunist taking advantage of grieving families. He also once owned an exotic snake breeding company. Red hair. Language is powerful.. Roccos is basically his Cheers; everybody knows his name. The internet hordes accused Carr of being a grief profiteer. Life had narrowed to a singular purpose, to comb a few square miles of earth for a trace. Nice family vacations, eventually a fourth home in Las Vegas. I say it again: in my opinion what the boyfriend of Samantha Sayers, Kevin Dares, did the night she went missing, going into that trail alone, the way he contacted Rangers and 911 that night, his delay to inform Samantha's mother that her daughter was missing - she learned about her disappearance next day approx. One day Kevin watched Clay Olsen, one of the core searchers, trip holding an ice ax, missing his own forehead by inches. They remembered her distinctive bald head, crowned with a star tattoo like a Roman laurel wreath. April 23, 2019 Some posters there report having read the public records on the FB Truth Group before it was made private. And its possible no body was found due to wildlife in the area? The weight he lost up on the mountain hasnt returned to his frame and he wears his weariness like a coat. As clues go, it's not much, just a name: Sam Sayers. Rachel Lakoduk woke early on Oct. 17, 2019, stuffed her purple sleeping bag into her green backpack, dumped her clean laundry on her bed, picked out the clothes she needed for the upcoming adventure, jumped into her white Jeep Cherokee and was westbound out of Moses Lake shortly after 7 a.m. She passed through Washingtons hot and dry middle, registered for her hike at a ranger station and then parked at the Hidden Lake Lookout trailhead. Rachel, didnt miss a beat: What do you expect? Like Sam, Jon summited a mountain and then vanished. Cookie Notice They found boot prints but that's it. Members of the Find Sam Sayers group began referring to themselves as Sams Army, calling elected officials en masse to demand more resources. Kevin, who used to wear jeans day hiking with Sam, learned how to use an ice ax. I was amazed. If your loved one is missing the odds are low that public sector law enforcement is going to find them, said David Francis, the founder of the Jon Francis Foundation named in honor of his son who went missing in the Idaho Sawtooths in 2006. Sometime in the morning of a bluebird August day, a Seattle woman picked up a pencil and wrote her name on the register at a trailhead off the Mountain Loop Highway. When asked if he was a racist, she said in a text Ive seen/heard/have no data point to support such accusations. They havent met up but they plan to, for which she is so grateful., Still, Carr remains a villain in many circles. Samantha Sayers is still missing. Missing: Samantha SayersPlease hurry. Back in Pennsylvania, that was how Sams mother heard the news. She asked about conditions ahead. Her online videos imply that the family is currently pursuing their own investigation into her daughter's disappearance. Follow mountain man Bud Carr. Except in the case of Sam Sayers. Adams, a lawman with a chiseled face that eschews theatrics, advised the frantic boyfriend not to go back out alone in the predawn hoursbut he also wouldnt stop him. But even he doesnt think Carr is a grief profiteer or a charlatan. Her goal was to spend the night at the Hidden Lake Lookout for her 28th birthday. Hes accused of being a Nazi, a white supremacist, a misogynist, a charlatan. His sarcastic southern faade slips. Samantha "Sam" Sayers, a former Girard resident, remains among the 43% still missing. The two ended up searching together. and our It even had an iron box stove inside. A Christian. There was nothing down there, he says. As for the money, Carr never asks to be paid. Independent consultancy providing strategic and operational expertise to both large and small-scale commercial FMCG clients, and pro bono consultancy focused on strategy and operations optimisation for not-for-profit clients. One saw her eating a sandwich. His baby girl, spunky and brave, wouldnt have given up without a fight. Seattle friends, the 27-year-old wrote in 2018, Im going hiking this Wednesday and tackling Vesper Peak Message me if you want to tag along.. Jamie hoped theyd repair the marriage. Carr Sr. bought the mine for a song in the early 80s and turned it into a profitable business within a decade. And everything tilted at an absurd angle 35 to 40 degrees making progress a thing measured in hundreds of feet, not miles. The conversation covers more ground than the searchers have. I dont think there is a malicious bone in that guys body, he said. That self-promotion is an intentional choice, Carr said. His dad sold his shares in the business and the family moved to Port Townsend, Washington, poured the gold money into a salvage diving company, sold that and moved to Missouri. And please don't get me started on the multiple GFM accounts. Everyone had a theory. You owe me 99.999 percent of those royalties, hed tell her. Samantha had planned to summit Vesper Peak in Washington's North Cascades, a route she'd taken before, and told family she'd be gone from 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Family says Samantha Sayers . Someone told Kevin 3 percent. And a common refrain, the question of whether Sams disappearance could be foul play; Adams simply never found anything to suggest that possibility. Spunky and creative, her room at her dads home is still covered in her photos and paintings. Youve got to be a little crazy to do that.. As the August day melted into late evening, Kevin grew concerned. Three years, and thousands of hours and dollars later, she remains missing. Sam had hiked Vesper Peak before, but its a rigorous trail. for someone to post these public records on Reddit - or provide access for others who aren't on FB - and so we can read them? The 28-year-old left at eight in the morning, according to ABC News,. For $1,700. Sam wasnt inside.It was Kevins mother Dawn, whod flown in from Louisiana and had spent the day working with the phone carrier to access information on Sams missing cell phone. Carr posted a 30-minute live YouTube video during which someone called him ridiculous. He responded by calling them a weak ass fool and challenged them to meet him on the mountain. The duo hatched a plot to steal guns from a Bass Pro shop. Supply bags meant to be left on Vesper for Sam. After she passed the two hikers, Lakoduk continued up. Though Snohomish County had officially suspended its operation, Sergeant Adams came back up to snorkel Lake Elan in a thick dry suit. Sam Sayers [Handout] The Theories With nearly 1,600 people missing in national forests and on public land, it is difficult to speculate about the causes of all these missing people. Reflecting on that time, Dares said lots of people offered to help and some followed through. After a $20,000 reward was announced, the trail swelled further. Saw this article on another sub and thought you guys would find it interesting. Three years, and thousands of hours and dollars later, she remains missing. He called 911 early in the morning of Aug. 2. People can say whatever they want, that man steps up more than anybody Ive ever met, despite his faults.. Where did she go? By 4 p.m. Oct. 17, Lakoduk had made it about 2.5 miles up the trail and was at 5,500 feet. It was a bucket-list objective, her husband Jamie Lakoduk said. What happened next is educated speculation. A man that dresses in military camo but, being a felon, cant legally own a gun. It was around day 50 of the search; Kevin would ultimately spend over 100 on this mountain. There were a few other searches after that, Carr said, but things didnt really heat up until Samantha Sayers vanished on Vesper Peak in 2018. 1 Be Kind and Courteous We're all in this together to create a welcoming environment. Im at 4,500 feet, Dares says, about 500 feet above the group. Its Dennys. It looks like a dead endrock climbers need ropes to scale the steep walls that rise in every directionbut theres one other way out, a trail that rises through an ankle-twisting boulder field, leading hikers to Headlee Pass. So forgive Kevin for being a bit antisocial sometimes. The official search was suspended on Aug. 23 after a Herculean effort. 509 Olive Way, Suite 305, Seattle, WA 98101, Kevin recognized Sam from across the room. So, Dares understands why county search and rescue crews suspend searches; they have other tragedies to attend to. (Tyler Tjomsland/The Spokesman-Review). Sam is said to have reached Vesper Peak's summit, and the peak's highest point reaches. The camera moves on, and Sam continues ever upward. On August 1, 2018, Sam Sayers joined the exclusive and unfortunate ranks of people gone missing in Americas wilderness. The longest search in state history turned up nothing. The best they could do, the carrier said, was load the SIM signature onto Dawns mobile, effectively cloning Sams iPhone. Dares is 500 feet up the hill, obscured by the thick vegetation. I was a member of that group, but found them to be really gossipy, and petty. In the face of such an enormous challenge . I'm happy to PM you with my FB name so you can invite me. Need help ASAP, he wrote. Through all this drama, Carr, Dares and others continued searching. She and Jamie became good friends, Jamie Lakoduk said, and then started dating. Whether or not psychics are legitimate. Ellinor hike in the Olympics about a month before she went missing. Hes prone to long rants, but is also a good listener, happy to suspend a story, although he almost always picks it up later. The title change was born out of a family discussion, he says. They stopped and chatted. By 8 p.m., he was at the trail, trying to track her down. I'm not sure how this type of stuff is going to play out, there seem to be a lot of fingers in the pot. It made sense, in a way, this impossible newsif Sam wandered out on her own, she could have hitchhiked back home. Now, the son believes his mom was killed by her boyfriend, a man currently in prison on other charges. In Snohomish, calls often come for underprepared or overdue teens; once SAR launches a response on the Mountain Loop Highway, he usually gets a call from sheepish parents saying the missing had just returned home. Once back in the States, they started backpacking. Someone, somewhere, saw something that may help authorities. His girlfriend, Samantha Sayers, also disappeared while hiking. Alopecia, an autoimmune disease, caused Sam to lose much of her hair; she shaved the rest daily. Raised in Pennsylvania, Sam took to theater in high school, passionate about vocals on stage and set construction behind it, then earned a BFA in western New York. Citing the campsites delicate heather, posters online howled at a plan that flaunted the prevailing leave no trace ethos. Two years later as Kevin Dares hikes uphill searching for Lakoduk, snow is a distant memory. Samantha Sayers. Flashlight in hand he started up the dirt path around 10pm, quickly through the first third of the hike, which rambles through thick forest.

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